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Originally Posted by actuary_pilot
No - but humans build cities in areas where earthquakes are prevalent. These are hardly acts of God.
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Right, so it's the kids fault for standing in the road.
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I don't know what the Eddas are.
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Norse mythological texts. Just as much reason to believe those as to believe the Hebrew mythological texts. In fact, they have a much more awesome ending. Ragnarok is a much better story than Revelation.
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1. He isn't obsessed with ruling over mankind - if he was he wouldn't have turned the control over to humans and Satan to allow them to try to prove thier point. Man is obsessed with ruling over himself. However his name, his reputation , and his right to rule is very important. If you had children, and someone came up and told you children that you were an unjust parent, that you lied , and then tried to corrupt your children, how would you feel? Do you think it would be an important issue?
2. I believe that we are living in the last days. I obviously don't know when Armageddon which is the final war between God and Satan (and wicked men) will be. The Bible says that even Jesus doesn't - only God knows.
3. The laws that God had for the Israelites were good for them. The protected them from diseases. Also Slaves were released after 7 years or the Jubilee year which ever came first. There were laws to protect slaves. In many cases slaves held positions of great trust and honor. It wasn't the same as the slaves in the south in the 1800s.
4. If a person believes in God why is it so hard to believe Satan exists - the Bible depicts him as a real person who talked to God to accuse Job, and who tempted Jesus. It says that he was created as a perfect angel and he made himself Satan by desiring to have the worship that belongs to God.
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1) Humans aren't all children. So a better analogy would be: "If you had slaves, wouldn't you want them to worship you? If someone told you they wanted to be free, wouldn't you try to keep them as slaves? Maybe starve them to try to prove a point that they need you as a master? But then you watch as they start to feed themselves...
2) As has been said, Christians have been saying they're living in the last days for the past 2000 years. It really makes you sound insane when you start saying that stuff.
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Originally Posted by Deuteronomy 22
13"If any man takes a wife and(A) goes in to her and then hates her 14and accuses her of misconduct and brings a bad name upon her, saying, 'I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her evidence of virginity,' 15then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the evidence of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate. 16And the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, 'I gave my daughter to this man to marry, and he hates her; 17and behold, he has accused her of misconduct, saying, "I did not find in your daughter evidence of virginity." And yet this is the evidence of my daughter’s virginity.' And they shall spread the cloak before the elders of the city. 18Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip[a] him, 19and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought a bad name upon a virgin[c] of Israel. And she shall be his wife.(B) He may not divorce her all his days. 20But if the thing is true, that evidence of virginity was not found in the young woman, 21then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and(C) the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has(D) done an outrageous thing in Israel by whoring in her father’s house.(E) So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
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Awesome laws you got there. I think we've done better now.
And why don't you know the problem with slavery? Owning someone is not right. And it's not temporary for non-Israelites.
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Originally Posted by Leviticus 25
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly
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Nope, Levitican law is pretty crappy. Basically like living in Saudi Arabia. And you want to talk about preventing disease? We've done a much better job of that. Turns out waving bird blood around your house doesn't work very well to prevent leprosy.
4) Satan is a very obvious myth. He exhibits all the common tropes of a trickster god, even fooling God in the story of Job (Yes, he fools God into tormenting Job). Plus, no being would be able to act in open rebellion to God without God willing it to do so. So everything Satan does is done with the permission of God. And there wouldn't be any "battle" with Satan. God would just wish him away.
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