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Old 04-02-2012, 02:24 PM
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It's a private university - let them run it however they see fit. Otherwise, eventually those Christian universities won't allowed to be Christian either and then who would you give your non-tithing money to?
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Point remains the rule was aimed at making Vandy an anti-christian place. You can broaden it to being intolerant of all religious organizations if you like. My child and my money won't be going there irregardless.
good luck finding a school with no gay people

Try Iran, there are no gay people there
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Point remains the rule was aimed at making Vandy an anti-christian place. You can broaden it to being intolerant of all religious organizations if you like. My child and my money won't be going there irregardless.
No, that wasn't "the point". The point is that Vandy wants it's campus to not be one of hate and discrimination. The haters and discriminators will have to do it elsewhere. Boo hoo for the haters.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:28 PM
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No, that wasn't "the point". The point is that Vandy wants it's campus to not be one of hate and discrimination. The haters and discriminators will have to do it elsewhere. Boo hoo for the haters.
Does vandy discriminate against people with low test scores? Do they practice affirmative action? Discrimination is not bad in all instances. Is it bad that a Catholic organization whose goal is to promote the catholic faith wants its leaders to be catholic? I say no. I think most reasonable people would say no.

This rule is about making rules that fall to the least common denominator. Instead of using common sense. If you think the catholic organization is about hate and discrimination then you are simply a catholic hater and you belong at vandy.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:30 PM
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It's a private university - let them run it however they see fit. Otherwise, eventually those Christian universities won't allowed to be Christian either and then who would you give your non-tithing money to?
And I am free to mock them. And I am free to not send my money to a place that discriminates against christian student groups.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:31 PM
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They didn't kick them off.

The Catholic Student Group is free to go somewhere else to do their discriminating and hate.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:33 PM
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why does it have to be targeting?

The Catholic group kicked out a member for being gay, they targeted themselves. They brought it on themselves.

Then all religious groups got screwed because the school reviewed the charters and they won't allow leadership that is not of their faith. I am ok with that as a rule. But now the religious groups either have to move off campus, change their bylaws (doubtful) or get the school to change their rules (possible - but takes time).

My religious group will allow anyone to be a member, but only people of my faith can be an officer of the group.

What happened wasn't targeting but the by product of homophobia
First of all, I do not think you have your facts right.

A fraternity kicked someone out for being gay.

That led the university to look at ALL campus organizations.

The Catholic group, from what I can tell, did nothing to kick out a gay member.
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And I am free to mock them. And I am free to not send my money to a place that discriminates against christian student groups.
You're free to mock them - but you're mocking the ability to have Christian Universities in the first place, which seems a bit hypocritical.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:37 PM
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good luck finding a school with no gay people

Try Iran, there are no gay people there
I don't have a problem with gay people or gay organizations. And if they want to require the leader of their group to be gay, I have no problem with that either. If you don't like the rules of their organization, then don't join.

Groups should not promote hate. Groups should respect other groups and all students. Groups should not be required to elect members who do not share their beliefs and the goals of the organization.

If they have other goals or beliefs, they should be in a different group, the atheist group or muslim group, or flying spaghetti monster group.
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How does one become the leader of a Catholic organization? If it's democratic, I don't see what the problem is.
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