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Old 05-11-2012, 10:10 AM
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Every fat person get a treadmill. If they don't use it for 1 hour/day, they get no pie. NO PIE!
and hook that treadmill up to the power grid to make us less dependent on foreign oil doi doi doi
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:14 AM
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We should encourage fat people to take up smoking. That usually helps people stay thinner.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:18 AM
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BS. The victims of the Nazi concentration camps ate only carbs and a little rat meat. Definitely low calorie, not low-carb.

It's calories in versus calories out. It physics people.


if you eat 300 calories a day, you pretty much are guaranteed to lose weight. Not sure that proves or disproves the insulin impact.
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Yeah, if you get so sunburned that you can't do your job.
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BS. The victims of the Nazi concentration camps ate only carbs and a little rat meat. Definitely low calorie, not low-carb.

It's calories in versus calories out. It physics people.
Depends on what type of body you want.
Skin and bones? Then sure, do the concentration camp diet. 5% chance (?) of living through it after four years, though.

If you want muscles, you'll need protein. More protein than the average American diet. And some fat. And fewer carbs than the average American diet.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:08 AM
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BS. The victims of the Nazi concentration camps ate only carbs and a little rat meat. Definitely low calorie, not low-carb.

It's calories in versus calories out. It physics people.
Low calorie is by definition low-everything. What some people who starved to death were eating doesn't really give any useful information to someone seeking to loss a certain amount of weight and then stay there.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:13 AM
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word they got skinny. butthey also SUFFERED by being hungry all day.

Starving won't work here cuz

1) People suffer
2) Unlike the POWs and Holocaust victims, they didn't have access to food. People here would immediately grab that burger once they can't take it anymoe.
3) You can die of simple diseases.
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The calorie in -> calorie out equation is true it's just that the prot/carb = 4 calories , fat = 9 calories is only an estimate and varies based on insulin levels, fat stores, and body type.

Building muscle has nothing to do with eating low carb. A lot of people find it easier to lose weight doing low carb, but that's for several different reasons beyond just pure "carbs are evil."
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Not if you're talking about producer behavior. That tiny percentage difference can have a far-reaching effect on producer behavior, even though the effect on consumer behavior would be negligible. That 2% won't make consumers buy significantly less Coke, but it could make Coca-Cola use cane sugar in the US instead of corn syrup.

If the removal of the subsidy resulted in that behavior by the Coca-Cola company and several other producers of sugary foods and drinks, that could result in a massive reduction in consumption of high fructose corn syrup, even with no change in the quantities sold of the end products. And if HFCS is really that much worse than cane sugar, that widespread reduction of its consumption could have a significant effect on obesity.
That's a huge IF.

But yes, if the price advantage of HFSC over cane sugar is small, removing corn subsidies could cause food manufacturers to shift to cane sugar. That would mean a big increase in sugar imports. I don't know how big the sugar tariff is, but removing it could have the same effect.

Just to put some perspective on this, the price of corn has roughly doubled in the last few years, from about $3.00/bushel to about $6.00/bushel, while the subsidy is very roughly $0.50. I'm sure that manufacturers are going to lag that movement because they could believe it's temporary. But I haven't heard anything about increased cane sugar imports.
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Some people on this board wouldn't mind a final solution to the obesity problem, I'm guessing.
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