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Old 05-10-2012, 02:44 PM
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Still odd that a practicing Catholic would call the entire structure of his Church bigots.
The Church hierarchy, in the US and the Republic of Ireland at least, is royally effed up. This whole pedophile (sp?) for example. In Pennsylvania just look at the Msgr. Lynn trial. The hierarchy needs read the whole mote and sty thing again. Railing against gays instead of looking within.

Look the church believes and Jesus said remarriage after divorce is adultery. Does that mean the state should outlaw remarriage? Of course not. Civil is civil and religious is religious.

Now look at Santorum. What’s more dangerous to society gays getting married or US senators voting for bills in exchange for board seats?
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:49 PM
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I'm sure He'll appreciate your taking the harder path of keeping teh gayz in their place than selling all your possessions and giving to the poor.
see post 76 in this thread, thanks
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I'm sure He'll appreciate your taking the harder path of keeping teh gayz in their place than selling all your possessions and giving to the poor.
You have misinterpreted that passage completely...while I am in no way perfect, nor do I always live for Him the way I know I can, I attempt to walk that path.

Do you know how much I "give to the poor", btw? Right, I didn't think so...
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:18 PM
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Doesn't really only your relationship with your wife matter to God for your sake? Seems to be a lot of hand wringing about whether you think other people are right with God or not.
That's an interesting point.

If I truly thought that God considered homosexuality a sin, and people that did it couldn't get into heaven, I would think my after-life would be better if there were more gays. Heaven would be less crowded, I would probably move up a few notches on the entrance list etc...

Gays being gay should make "Real Christians" happy, right?
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No, everyone being protected (and not just minorities) was exactly his point. You just missed it in your rush to snark.
OK I'll give you this.


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So you agree with Loner that anti-discrimination laws protect all classes. Great.
They should*, do I think they do evently? Not even close AA being a prime exampe.

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Do you have examples of places that have gay employee quotas? Abercrombie and Fitch models
had Romney said this Loner would have been screaming hostility
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also, the goalposts. you moved them
No I don't

I happen to have a certain color eyes, I do not think the Federal Gov't is out to get me because they won't pass a law specifically stating you can not fire anyone due to the color of their eyes. (Assuming you remember the color of her eyes).

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This belongs in the best meltdowns thread. I hope that strawman didn't fight back too hard and just laid back and tried to enjoy it.
Thanks, he stayed behind while I went to lunch.


-- I don't know how giving Gov't contracts to a minority owned business if they are within X% of the nearest bid is not discrimination against people for being white but

** Sorry I don't have the statute, and the person I knew (a minority who had a very very successful body shop) who told me this died a few years ago. ** They had the City of XXXX contract and serviced any car from the city that got in an accident.

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That speaks to the "hope" to which I referred earlier...right now I view the very fabric of society to be on life support because the individuals in our society haven't chosen to follow God's plan...and I'm commanded to care about those that God loves, and that includes everyone...
Have the individuals in our society, as you put it, ever chosen to follow God's plan?
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Thanks, he stayed behind while I went to lunch.


-- I don't know how giving Gov't contracts to a minority owned business if they are within X% of the nearest bid is not discrimination against people for being white but

** Sorry I don't have the statute, and the person I knew (a minority who had a very very successful body shop) who told me this died a few years ago. ** They had the City of XXXX contract and serviced any car from the city that got in an accident.
There is a vendor my past employer used where the sourcing guy said the VP he reported to told him to retain that vendor even though they weren't happy with the service because they couldn't lose another minority-owned vendor.
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Have the individuals in our society, as you put it, ever chosen to follow God's plan?
Sometimes, but not large segments nor for particularly long periods of time.
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That's an interesting point.

If I truly thought that God considered homosexuality a sin, and people that did it couldn't get into heaven, I would think my after-life would be better if there were more gays. Heaven would be less crowded, I would probably move up a few notches on the entrance list etc...

Gays being gay should make "Real Christians" happy, right?
Are you assuming fixed dimensions of heaven?
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