Why not force democracy Everywhere

[Car'a'carn]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

. As a result,[42] the Richard Nixon administration organized and inserted secret operatives in Chile, in order to quickly destabilize Allende’s government.[43] In addition, American financial pressure restricted international economic credit to Chile.

Simultaneously, opposition media, politicians, business guilds and other organizations helped to accelerate a campaign of domestic political and economical destabilization, some of which was helped by the United States

Here is the book description from Amazon:

In the thirty-five years since the violent overthrow of Chilean President Salvador Allende, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has vehemently denied U.S. involvement. Almost with the same breath, Kissinger suggests that the democratically elected Allende represented Soviet aggression in Latin America, therefore posing a threat to the United States' physical security.

Newly released documents reveal the Nixon administration's efforts to undermine Allende, while indicating that Nixon and Kissinger did not believe the socialist regime in Santiago endangered the United States or even had close ties to Moscow. The White House feared that the Chilean experiment would encourage other Latin American countries to challenge U.S. hegemony. Nixon, Kissinger, and Allende explores the president's cultural and intellectual prejudices against Latin America and the economic pressures that induced action against Allende.

Did you read the second source? I suggest you do it. It's interesting and is about 1970, not 1973.

[Guerilla poster]

Originally Posted by Car'a'carn

Here is the book description from Amazon:




Did you read the second source? I suggest you do it. It's interesting and is about 1970, not 1973.

I agree that is interesting and will put on my reading list, not sure how that contradicts the facts that US helped overthrow a democracy and replaced it with a military junta (whether the reasons were justified or not is a seconday consideration and outside the realm of the original question)

[lovmath]

Did you guys know that Britain imports oil from Nigeria, refine it, then send it back to Nigeria...They also sell weapons to their leaders

We live in a democratic society, but why can't we stop this.

If there was a vote regarding these actions, it will be in favor of these poor people down there, but we never get to vote on such things....

[Mr. B]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

Chile

How could you ignore Iran, Mr. G?

[Car'a'carn]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

I agree that is interesting and will put on my reading list, not sure how that contradicts the facts that US helped overthrow a democracy and replaced it with a military junta (whether the reasons were justified or not is a seconday consideration and outside the realm of the original question)

I still have not seen those facts, i.e. facts showing direct US involvement in the 1973 coup, otherwise yes US tried to undermine Allende's regime just like they tried with lots of other regimes all over the world. Also calling Allende's regime a democracy is a bit stretching it.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by Standtall

Canada can make a lot more, if the price is right. I heard they have estimated reserves that exceed the middle east, just tough to get to.

I don't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_res...ves_by_country

[lovmath]

When oil will run out of the middle east, U.S will start producing oil.....

[Mr. B]

Originally Posted by Car'a'carn

I still have not seen those facts, i.e. facts showing direct US involvement in the 1973 coup, otherwise yes US tried to undermine Allende's regime just like they tried with lots of other regimes all over the world. Also calling Allende's regime a democracy is a bit stretching it.

Then try Iran (1953) on for size.

[lovmath]

If you guys think about west model....educated people from most undeveloped countries try to come to west, so we use their intelect to develop ideas, patents......Many immigrants from east are educated who are looking for opportunities and we have professional Visa...."Brain Drain".....as long as this model continues the west will continue to develop at greater rate than other countries with political instability.....

Which educated people want to be ruled by religious fanatics?

We are pretty good at using all of human capital resources.....the U.S millitary generates huge revenue by "helping" the Middle East....

[Baby, ByeBye]

Originally Posted by lovmath

If you guys think about west model....educated people from most undeveloped countries try to come to west, so we use their intelect to develop ideas, patents......Many immigrants from east are educated who are looking for opportunities and we have professional Visa...."Brain Drain".....as long as this model continues the west will continue to develop at greater rate than other countries with political instability.....

Which educated people want to be ruled by religious fanatics?

We are pretty good at using all of human capital resources.....the U.S millitary generates huge revenue by "helping" the Middle East....

Are you talking about the US, where people can't get elected unless they declare religious?