CO Mass Shooting Thread

[Incredible Hulctuary]

Some of you seriously think somebody in the crowd with a gun could or would have stopped him?

It's a dark room with a smoke bomb that just went off and hundreds of people scattering chaotically. If you take a shot you're probably more likely to hit somebody else if you hit anybody. And if your first shot doesn't kill or disable him, now you've turned his attention towards shooting in your direction.

Now suppose there are not one but 10 people in the crowd with guns. But they don't know each other, and don't know if each other is in league with the initial gunman, so now they're shooting at each other in addition to the gunman and twice as many people end up dead.

Shit happens, and sometimes owning or using a gun won't stop it. Guns aren't so all-powerful for defense as you'd like to believe.

[FormLetter]

Originally Posted by ShebaPoe

I think he fled the theater.

what's CO's stance on guns? It's an outdoorsy state but a hippie state too, so I'm guessing they have some restrictive gun control.

http://www.rmgo.org/gun-law-faqs/

Originally Posted by RMGO

Can I carry concealed on my person without a permit in Colorado? NO (it’s a Class 2 misdemeanor if caught, and you will most likely forfeit the weapon; however, if done on school property it’s a felony)
18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons.

(1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:

(a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or

(b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person;

18-12-105.5. Unlawfully carrying a weapon - unlawful possession of weapons - school, college, or university grounds.

... ...

Where can I NOT carry with a valid Colorado concealed carry permit?

18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.

(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except

(2) A permit issued does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbys...gunlaws_co.htm

Carrying:
•It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed on or about one's person without a permit, except for a person in their dwelling, place of business, or on property owned or controlled by him or her.
•A permit is not required to carry a handgun where carrying firearms is legal, if the handgun is not concealed.

•A handgun is not considered concealed if it is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who is carrying it for a legal use, or the handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.
•Exempt from the requirement of a permit to carry a concealed handgun are peace officers (active and retired) of Colorado, probation officers, law enforcement officers employed by jurisdiction outside the state, so long as the employing jurisdiction exempts peace officers employed by jurisdictions within Colorado from any concealed weapons laws in effect in those jurisdictions.
A sheriff shall issue a permit to carry a concealed handgun to an applicant:
•Who is a legal resident of the state.

•Is at least twenty-one.

•Does not chronically and habitually abuse alcohol.

•Demonstrates competency with a firearm.
•Who is a legal resident of the state.

•Is at least twenty-one.

•Is not ineligible to possess a firearm, has not been convicted of perjury in relation to an application for a concealed weapon permit.

•Is not an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance as provided in federal law and regulations.

•Is not subject to a restraining order in effect at the time the application is submitted, or a permanent restraining order, or a temporary restraining order in effect at the time the application is submitted.
However, the Sheriff can deny the permit if he reasonably believes that documented previous behavior by the applicant makes it likely that the applicant will present a danger to self or others if the permit is issued.

[FormLetter]

Originally Posted by ShebaPoe

Hmm.

Surprised there were no gun owners there.

If it was in a theater, then it is possible that the theater building owner forbid carrying of firearms on the property.

[JasonScandopolous]

I read somewhere (not verified) that movie theaters are not areas where CC is allowed in colorado.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by ShebaPoe

I think he fled the theater.

what's CO's stance on guns? It's an outdoorsy state but a hippie state too, so I'm guessing they have some restrictive gun control.

http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/Col-state.htm

[Harry]

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

This doesn't prove what you think it proves.

$10 dollars this guy has a history of mental illness or will be diagnosed with such. Which proves that Bigfoot is behind this.

lol

[Harry]

Originally Posted by Rickson

And was treated by this nice ex-black ops doctor who worked on MK Ultra research.

Like I said regardless this dude is a patsy.

15 miles from columbine, could any of them had a doctor in common?

How the f** can you say that without knowing anything?

[Rickson]

Originally Posted by Incredible Hulctuary

Some of you seriously think somebody in the crowd with a gun could or would have stopped him?

It's a dark room with a smoke bomb that just went off and hundreds of people scattering chaotically. If you take a shot you're probably more likely to hit somebody else if you hit anybody. And if your first shot doesn't kill or disable him, now you've turned his attention towards shooting in your direction.

Now suppose there are not one but 10 people in the crowd with guns. But they don't know each other, and don't know if each other is in league with the initial gunman, so now they're shooting at each other in addition to the gunman and twice as many people end up dead.

Shit happens, and sometimes owning or using a gun won't stop it. Guns aren't so all-powerful for defense as you'd like to believe.

I prefer to take my chances armed vs unarmed.

For every one of these there are 1000's of incidents where a gun saved lives.

That's the thing w/ this, no one knows...so you can make any claim you'd like.

[Rickson]

Originally Posted by Harry

How the f** can you say that without knowing anything?

This is how they all are, this is isn't the first round of these.

DHS/TSA now going to secure the movie places? Malls? Restaurants?

[FormLetter]

Originally Posted by JasonScandopolous

I read somewhere (not verified) that movie theaters are not areas where CC is allowed in colorado.

Originally Posted by RMGO

Where can I NOT carry with a valid Colorado concealed carry permit?

18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.

(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except

(2) A permit issued does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

sounds like something mistaken