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Old 08-07-2012, 10:42 AM
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There were no automatic weapons at the time of the founding fathers. Moreover, law enforcement and mass security was not possible/feasible/available. Hence it made sense to arm the common person. Now it doesnt make sense.
what an original argument! i never thought about it like that.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:48 AM
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There were no automatic weapons at the time of the founding fathers. Moreover, law enforcement and mass security was not possible/feasible/available. Hence it made sense to arm the common person. Now it doesnt make sense.
Ummm.... that's wrong.

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"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in `An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphlets on the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))
The militarization of the police would actually be proof positive of the need of arming the populace.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:21 AM
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There were no automatic weapons at the time of the founding fathers. Moreover, law enforcement and mass security was not possible/feasible/available. Hence it made sense to arm the common person. Now it doesnt make sense.
The bold doesn't make any sense given that the need for such didn't exist back then.

Personal integrity meant a lot more back then than it does now.
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Whatever guys. Stay Calm and Carry on.
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What's the deal with these kinds of guys always covering their bodies in tattoos?
Getting a tattoo signals, among other things, a rejection of mainstream, bourgois values.
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What's the deal with these kinds of guys always covering their bodies in tattoos?

Signaling, imo. Same reason people wear cheese heads at a footbal game.

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