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Old 08-11-2012, 07:16 AM
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I have yet to see a party win an election by targeting the third rail of American Life: Medicare and SS
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Go big or go home! I suspect Mitt wants to bait the Dems into attacking on those policy issues, to get them off the personal attacks. If so, over next 3 months, Obama will be exposed as having no plan for deficits/entitlements.

Btw, anyone bitching about the GOP not being fiscally conservative enough can GTH. A business man and a Budget wonk that hangs out with actuaries running against a community organizer thats run up record debt. It'll never be so clear which side is fiscally conservative.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:36 AM
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Yep.

I'm that sure that Obama will not lose now.

I have yet to see a party win an election by targeting the third rail of American Life: Medicare and SS

Touch them and you die a fast and painful political death. It would seem Romney does not understand this.

Oh, well. I guess he's in for a rather rude awakening.
I totally agree. Ryan is something of a darling among certain conservatives, but millions of mainstream American voters will see him as a crazy kid who wants to cut our benefits.

Romney had plenty of baggage already with his secret accounts in the Cayman Islands and all of that, but now he's a goner. Obama will win easily -- a victory that is not deserved.

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I totally agree. Ryan is something of a darling among certain conservatives, but millions of mainstream American voters will see him as a crazy kid who wants to cut our benefits.

Romney had plenty of baggage already with his secret accounts in the Cayman Islands and all of that, but now he's a goner. Obama will win easily -- a victory that is not deserved.

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Given your demonstrated political prognostication and evaluation skills, I find this heartening. Time to order the Romney Victory balloons!
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Once again, the Republican VP pick hands victory to Obama.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:31 AM
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Go big or go home! I suspect Mitt wants to bait the Dems into attacking on those policy issues, to get them off the personal attacks. If so, over next 3 months, Obama will be exposed as having no plan for deficits/entitlements.

Btw, anyone bitching about the GOP not being fiscally conservative enough can GTH. A business man and a Budget wonk that hangs out with actuaries running against a community organizer thats run up record debt. It'll never be so clear which side is fiscally conservative.
lulz@fiscally conservative. In what bizarro dimension?

The Ryan plan is one big tax cut, and it has been shown, that even by eliminating every single tax break imaginable, it would still add to the deficit.

So yeah, lulz@fiscally conservative again

I think you need to clear your head and realize that the Ryan plan is just a transfer from the low/middle class to the wealthy in terms of income.

And Obama is going to hammer that home again and again.

And he's also going to combine that with the privatization of Medicare and SS angle.

lol This is going to be like two people (Romney, Ryan) getting burned to death by a flamethrower

It's going to be fun to watch.

I predict the biggest lopsided D win in history, as pretty much all the Independents are going to side D now.

Ever taken public finance...and seen how election theory works?

Well, you win national elections by moving your policies towards the middle, and not to the far edges of the right or left.
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Once again, the Republican VP pick hands victory to Obama.
I think you had this post ready for any choice Romney made.
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I think you had this post ready for any choice Romney made.
Not really. If he had picked a moderate republican this would never have been an issue.

But he picked a guy that sits in the extreme right.
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I totally agree. Ryan is something of a darling among certain conservatives, but millions of mainstream American voters will see him as a crazy kid who wants to cut our benefits.

Romney had plenty of baggage already with his secret accounts in the Cayman Islands and all of that, but now he's a goner. Obama will win easily -- a victory that is not deserved.

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The argument Ryan will make is that Medicare is going bankrupt. So whats your solution Obama? We have a 1.5 Trillion dollar defecit this year so whats your solution Obama?

This doesn't sound crazy in fact a politician claiming to keep the status quo without massive tax increases is the one who sounds the least credible.

The American people understand that we can't spend our way into oblivion and have had enough.
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Will Romney even win Wis. now?
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:38 AM
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The argument Ryan will make is that Medicare is going bankrupt. So whats your solution Obama? We have a 1.5 Trillion dollar defecit this year so whats your solution Obama?

This doesn't sound crazy in fact a politician claiming to keep the status quo without massive tax increases is the one who sounds the least credible.

The American people understand that we can't spend our way into oblivion and have had enough.
I have a feeling that Ryan will help to get female votes, since he's arguably the best looking among all the candidates.
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