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Old 03-31-2004, 11:50 AM
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Anyway, it's not like a flat-chested chick or a guy couldn't go get a server job at the another restaurant down the street and make just as much. In fact they'd probably make more somewhere else where they were getting tipped base on the quality of their service, and weren't competing on a physical appearance with other servers.
It seems like physical appearance plays a role in everything in life. It's been my empirical experience that cuter servers make better tips. Good looks are advantageous in the business world too, at least on a subconscious level. It's just how the world works.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:52 AM
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It's a concept chain. It's appropriate to discriminate in favor of busty women. That's the only reason people go there - it's their business and they publicize that fact. I see no problem with such hiring practices.
I must contest this. My department - about 50% wimmin - makes frequent trips to Hooters as their Friday group lunch. Most of the time it's the wimmin who suggest it.

Some people just really like their wings.

I will concede your point, though, that it's the boobies that they publicize for the most part. (non-verbally, anyway)

P.S.: I've actually never been to one as a matter of principle, though I have tasted their wings, which are admittedly very tasty.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:56 AM
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Anyway, it's not like a flat-chested chick or a guy couldn't go get a server job at the another restaurant down the street and make just as much. In fact they'd probably make more somewhere else where they were getting tipped base on the quality of their service, and weren't competing on a physical appearance with other servers.
It seems like physical appearance plays a role in everything in life. It's been my empirical experience that cuter servers make better tips. Good looks are advantageous in the business world too, at least on a subconscious level. It's just how the world works.
Yeah, I know you're right. That is the way of the world. Attractiveness and professional success are directly correlated. I did a paper on this in college. But, a pretty flat-chested girl can make a lot of money working at Maggiano's. Just cuz she doesn't have DDs doesn't mean she isn't going to make any money. But I don't begrudge Hooters their busty hiring practices as this is their marketing angle.

It's not Hooter's fault that humans are programmed to respond to health cues, fertility cues, symmetry, etc. As you said - it's the way of the world.
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Old 03-31-2004, 11:57 AM
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It's a concept chain. It's appropriate to discriminate in favor of busty women. That's the only reason people go there - it's their business and they publicize that fact. I see no problem with such hiring practices.
I must contest this. My department - about 50% wimmin - makes frequent trips to Hooters as their Friday group lunch. Most of the time it's the wimmin who suggest it.

Some people just really like their wings.

I will concede your point, though, that it's the boobies that they publicize for the most part. (non-verbally, anyway)

P.S.: I've actually never been to one as a matter of principle, though I have tasted their wings, which are admittedly very tasty.
OK, I never ate there. Just drank. We went there for the boobs. Frankly, I wasn't impressed, anyway.
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how exactly do they manage those hiring practices? Suppose you decide to apply for a waitstaff job there. Can they really tell you the job's not yours because:
- You're too old at 35
- You're not female
- Your breasts aren't large enough
- You're not pretty enough
- You have a minor disability wherein doctors have told you not to wear skin-hugging shirts
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It's a concept chain. It's appropriate to discriminate in favor of busty women. That's the only reason people go there - it's their business and they publicize that fact. I see no problem with such hiring practices.
What if I had a concept of a "Black Beauties" restaurant chain?
They brought that up in a "60 Minutes" piece about the employment discrimination lawsuits against Abercrombie and Fitch. A&F supposedly hires sales clerks with the A&F "look". Since the "look" is pretty much young, slim, white yuppie, they are being sued for employment discrimination. The piece mentioned that FUBU ("For Us By Us") sells clothing designed by blacks for the black market, and hires predominantly blacks, but they are not being sued. A&F sees nothing wrong with recruiting a sales staff that embodies the look they are promoting.
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Hooters was sued for failing to hire male servers. Don't know the outcome. Maybe their defense was that his boobs weren't big enough.
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Was it that guy from Fight Club? He would probably make the cut.
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What if I had a concept of a "Black Beauties" restaurant chain?
A fair point. But our society is very sensitive to racial lines...this would be percieved as insulting or degrading, even if it really is no different than a pan-racial Hooters concept.
What about BET. Kinda like MTV, both play Eminem and Nelly.
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