Poker: Tips for new players

[MNBridge]

I've noticed we have gotten some new players to the game here. (Or relatively new)

Reading the "How would you play this" threads may not be the best place to get some ideas. So I thought I'd throw out some quick tips that I think would work. Others feel free to say I'm nuts.

This is all for early play (7 to 9 players).

Play very tight (Almost impossible to play too tight)
1) If someone raises in front of you only play AA, KK, QQ or AKsuited. And reraise ALL of your chips.
2) If someone calls in front of you
Play hands in #1 and go ALL in.
Play above + Add any AK, any AQ, JJ , TT and 99. and Raise to 5x BB. (Hand Group A)
Any other pair or suited ace call and fold if raised.
3) If you are first to enter a pot.
Go ALL in with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, AQ
With any other pair of suited Ace call and fold if raised. (Hand group B)

On the Flop (assuming you aren't all in)
If you started with suited ace and flopped flush (Check Raise ALL in, If no one bets the flop all in on the turn)
If you started with pair and flopped set or all the cards on the board are lower than yours (All in)
If you started with AK, AQ, and flop top pair (ALL IN)
If you started with Ace suited and flop 2 pair (ALL IN)

In all other cases check fold.

[Expunge]

I disagree with most of the above advice. Way to simplistic, and overly tight, especially if you're playing against RF'ers who will pick up on this. You might as well click the away button using your method.

[MountainHawk]

Well, of course, he left off the caveat that if Expunge goes all in, call with any two unsuited rags, since you are sure to flop a full house or hit two runners on the turn and river to catch a flush.

[Cohete009]

Originally Posted by Expunge

I disagree with most of the above advice. Way to simplistic, and overly tight, especially if you're playing against RF'ers who will pick up on this. You might as well click the away button using your method.

I have to agree with Sponge. You can't be predicatable, plus, you hardly ever get those hands so you will be having no fun folding every time. Sure if you get those cards it is easy, but in reality, you have to make plays with no cards at all, and outplay your opponents. That is why I usually raise Douglan with 38o and 29o. You have to take down pots, and put fear into your opponents. You don't have to have the best hand to win the pot!

[Expunge]

I'm not going to give away everything but i think rule #1 is way off base.

There are many hands worth of a call in this situation. The number hands grows as the number of callers between you and the raiser increases.

[MNBridge]

Originally Posted by Expunge

I disagree with most of the above advice. Way to simplistic, and overly tight, especially if you're playing against RF'ers who will pick up on this. You might as well click the away button using your method.

It's supposed to be simple, I was hoping to write something that someone who never plays could use. Overly tight? I actually thought if anything it should be tighter. Where is it overly tight?

The only things I would change would be play suited connectors for a call. And call on the flop with a nut flush draw. -- But then I have to go into odds and didn't want to bother yet.

This really isn't much different than the starting hands I would play in those cases. The only real major change is the betting.

I think that newer players should get their chips in as fast as possible because they have a greater chance of being outplayed on the flop, turn, river.

[MNBridge]

Originally Posted by Leiner69er

I have to agree with Sponge. You can't be predicatable, plus, you hardly ever get those hands so you will be having no fun folding every time. Sure if you get those cards it is easy, but in reality, you have to make plays with no cards at all, and outplay your opponents. That is why I usually raise Douglan with 38o and 29o. You have to take down pots, and put fear into your opponents. You don't have to have the best hand to win the pot!

Yes but you are referring to someone who has played a decent amount. Are you really going to recommend that someone new to the game play 83o?

[douglan]

Originally Posted by Leiner69er

I have to agree with Sponge. You can't be predicatable, plus, you hardly ever get those hands so you will be having no fun folding every time. Sure if you get those cards it is easy, but in reality, you have to make plays with no cards at all, and outplay your opponents. That is why I usually raise Douglan with 38o and 29o. You have to take down pots, and put fear into your opponents. You don't have to have the best hand to win the pot!

You just love to bust my chops, don't ya Cohete? I'm not sure "fear" is the correct term. I do not "fear" you at the table. Respect maybe, fear no.

I think we have contradictory playing styles. I like to hang around, wait for the right hand and flop and then punish people. You try to eliminate opponents pre-flop by raising a lot. I think both syles work.

BTW - I think I have your number right now (remember last night, and the other night, and the time I whooped you head's up, and ... and ... lol). That may change of course...but I'm happy to play you under my current approach to the game...

[Expunge]

Just always raise (just to 2x) in front of MNP. That makes him fold everything except AA,KK,QQ,and AKs, in which case he's all in.

[MNBridge]

Originally Posted by Expunge

Just always raise (just to 2x) in front of MNP. That makes him fold everything except AA,KK,QQ,and AKs, in which case he's all in.

OK now I'm p*****d. I'm trying to give people who have never played a guide for playing. And you seem to think that I'm saying this style will make you a superstar.