Here is some entry-level advice

[DW Simpson]

Originally Posted by CNA Recruiter

If you call or e-mail me and we hire you, it costs us $0.

Jeff, this is untrue. You've glossed over all of the work you did before a candidate called or emailed you, and you've removed all of the work that you have to do during the process that an external recruiter might do instead.

Claude

Originally Posted by D.W. Simpson Webmaster

Jeff, this is untrue. You've glossed over all of the work you did before a candidate called or emailed you, and you've removed all of the work that you have to do during the process that an external recruiter might do instead.

Claude

In rebuttal. My job here is to support the Actuarial Staffing in every way possible. Thus, the cost of the work that I do is assumed and will be there whether or not we pay a recruiting fee. You are correct in saying that it will cost us $0, but it will cost us from $15,000 to $40,000 above the normal cost per hire if we hire an agency candidate.

[Sparky5]

How many recruiters have you contacted?
How long have you been out of school?
Do you have any intern experience?
Are you restricted by location?

[jackj109]

2, 3 years, no, no. I think it's a combination of little things and the fact that each time I'm close to getting picked there's just someone better than me. I think I'll get hired eventually but I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm for looking.

[Dr T Non-Fan]

Originally Posted by jackj109

2, 3 years, no, no. I think it's a combination of little things and the fact that each time I'm close to getting picked there's just someone better than me. I think I'll get hired eventually but I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm for looking.

Critical piece of information in that post above: that not only do you have to be qualified for the position, but you have to be the best candidate available for the position.

[keeya9]

any updates Jack?
more interviews, landed a job?

Good luck - this post is awesome.

[Grue]

Yep, a great thread. The only bad thing about it is that it's incredibly depressing: The author seems to have decent credentials and be doing everything right but still can't get a job even after looking for a year.

[tommie frazier]

there is almost always a delay in the discission when a conference call is used. either that or people talk over each other. if you are trying hard to be formal and polite, the pauses are unavoidable. as westley said, answer their questions, and stop. if you need to elaborate, do so. if not, remain silent (google "miranda rights").

[Goal30T]

nice job! wish i read this before i started interviewing.

[renaissoxx]

Heres a question regarding the rant about people complaining about not being able to find a job when theyve only sent out 5 resumes a week.

Ive heard this from another person, but when shown the jobs on the market the person wants me to send out resumes for jobs asking for people 10x more qualified than I. Like they specifically ask for 5 years experience or something like that... the number of jobs that say they are looking for entry level are few and far between. Now I can see people who say "looking for a year experience" hiring someone that is entry level if that person just happened to be at the right place at the right time.

But 5 yrs experience? Whats the point of sending out 200 resumes a week if you know ahead of time that only 5 of them actually have a chance of being taken seriously? And when I look for actuarial jobs that seem like I have a decent chance of getting, 5 a week seems to be more than whats there.