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Old 07-16-2002, 02:03 PM
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:07 PM
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these people that pass 3 exams at once, do you really have nothing better to do with your time???
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:13 PM
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Certainly they're not here to read your question.

Out of eight, I predict at least seven with Chinese names.

I imagine "studying sweatshops." Or cheating. Or three different people taking the exam under one name (which is some form of cheating) with one admission ticket.

Also a possibility of their being genii with nothing better to do. There has to be some. Still Chinese, though.
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:29 PM
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I think you're giving way to much prominence to the cheating theory, especially when tied with a nationality.

In my daughter's public school, I've seen many Asians who study harder than the average student of European descent. And some who study less. And some non-Asians who also excel. There seems to be a real correlation of effort and result.

To the extent that there happens to be one or more non-Asians on the "passing three parts" list, is such a person suspected of cheating?
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:46 PM
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I don't think DTNF is talking about Asian-Americans.

When I was a grad student in the mid-90s, the mathematics department at the university I attended would not accept applicants from China into the doctoral program because it was common knowledge that the GREs were routinely compromised there.
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Old 07-16-2002, 02:51 PM
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Maybe we should get the SOA / CAS to identify the countries of all the passers? Or do we just assume any Asians who passed three must have taken the exam in China?
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:15 PM
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Not if their last name is 'Singh'.
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:37 PM
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They are from Tawain not China, then they could not be cheaters cause Tawain is not China unless you believe in the 2 countries One china or was it 2 egg rolls and one Kung Pao Chicken for $6.99. I think I saw Kung Pow, it was not very funny. Oh, I forgot about Hong Kong, they could be used-to-be British-but-now-Chinese-Szechuan-Cheaters.

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Old 07-17-2002, 03:43 PM
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When I was a grad student in the mid-90s, the mathematics department at the university I attended would not accept applicants from China into the doctoral program because it was common knowledge that the GREs were routinely compromised there.
What?? When I was a grad student in mid-90s quite a few of the best people there were from China. I have no idea what their GRE score was since my school did not require it for admission, but when i took my GRE in Moscow (well, not quite China) it was administered by people from the American embassy and one would think it is the same everywhere.

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Or three different people taking the exam under one name (which is some form of cheating) with one admission ticket.
And just why would they want to do it? How much do i need to pay somebody to study for C3 and pass it for me? And we all know that even if you passed it this time it does not mean that you can go in next time without any studying and pass it again.

Looks like you all forgetting that there are people for whom passing these exams means much more than salary increase - this is their ticket to America.
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Old 07-17-2002, 04:20 PM
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Alya,

Of course some of the strongest students were from China. The point is that because exam security was compromised, it was difficult to distinguish between strong applicants and fakes. My university (a prominent one) chose not to take the risk.

Why do you think your exam was administered by US embassy officials?

I agree that these candidates have strong incentive to pass. But aren't there two sides to that coin?
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