More trouble with JJ

[Bama Gambler]

Damn JJ can be tough to play.
***** Hand History for Game 1994240521 *****
NL Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:11885281 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, May 03, 18:54:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 35010 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Daniels63 ( $975 )
Seat 2: Budgetzero ( $1270 )
Seat 3: ag125 ( $955 )
Seat 4: cardmaster53 ( $1000 )
Seat 5: chasmar ( $1015 )
Seat 6: rocketime ( $1090 )
Seat 7: me ( $975 )
Seat 8: saleen591 ( $780 )
Seat 9: AlexAz ( $965 )
Seat 10: W1NG_ZERO ( $975 )
Trny:11885281 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to me [ Jd Jh ]
chasmar calls [15].
>You have options at Table 35016 Table!.
rocketime raises [55].
me calls [55].
saleen591 folds.
AlexAz folds.
W1NG_ZERO folds.
Daniels63 folds.
Budgetzero calls [55].
ag125 folds.
cardmaster53 folds.
chasmar folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Th, 6c ]
rocketime checks.
me bets [150].
Budgetzero calls [150].
rocketime folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
me checks.
Budgetzero bets [200].
me calls [200].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
me checks.
Budgetzero bets [600].
me is all-In [570]

[Sotally Tober]

Damn, what can you do?!? I guess I move AI on the turn, check-raising. I know you are worried about QQ-AA or a set, but as you see, any under card comes out...you're committed to calling an AI anyway and hoping to be good. So if you will call an AI if no Q,K or A comes out, why not move AI on turn? Maybe he has AT, KTs, QTs or JTs. If he folds on the turn, I'm still happy to win that big a pot so early in the SnG.

Would you have folded if an A, K or Q hits on the river and he moves AI or are you already committed to call and have to hope he didn't chase it?

[Bama Gambler]

I was hoping to get to the river as cheap as possible. When he just called the flop and bet out on the turn I REALLY feared a set. If I know the guy is a solid player, then I prolly fold the turn. I definitely fold the river to a solid player. I have no idea about him, so I call based on the average $100 SNG player.

[Sotally Tober]

Originally Posted by Bama Gambler

I have no idea about him, so I call based on the average $100 SNG player.

So why not AI on turn then and try to take it down there? You're basically saying you are committed to see then end of this hand.

[Bama Gambler]

Originally Posted by Sotally Tober

So why not AI on turn then and try to take it down there? You're basically saying you are committed to see then end of this hand.

B/c if he has a worse hand I want to make more money (he might fold to an AI and I give him a chance to bluff with a worse hand) and if he has a better hand, then I hope he leaves me with some chips (he might not put me AI).

[Sotally Tober]

Yeah, I understand that, really I do. But I think if you are committed to call the river reagrdless, you're looking to gamble, sort of. So be the first one in. I'd just be thinking I have to find out right now if my overpair is good, and if not, and he has what I fear he has, he's setting me in anyway on the river, and I'm calling and losing anyway.

[Uncle Billy]

Originally Posted by Sotally Tober

Yeah, I understand that, really I do. But I think if you are committed to call the river reagrdless, you're looking to gamble, sort of.

The way the turn went down I don't think he was committed on the river. If the river shows a Q K or A and the guy bets 600 I'm out of that hand. 5s I probably call.

[USCanuck]

so what was the result of this hand? I don't see it

[snafu]

I would have tried a check raise all-in on the flop. If he checks too then I'm betting medium the rest of the hand to keep him in 'cause he's got **** too. If he bets then I think he's got less than me but good draws and I'm pushing all in.

Originally Posted by USCanuck

so what was the result of this hand? I don't see it

He is taking a break. Bump this after vegas.