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10-23-2001, 04:53 PM
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Here's a question for you.
Does anyone know of a person who would have been aborted if not for a terrorist attack against a clinic? Like say the mother had planned an abortion, but didn't get to go because of anti-abortion terrorism. Because they missed their appointment, they wound up having the baby. So the pro life terrorists actually saved this persons life. There's got to be people like this out there. <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Voice of Reason on 2001-10-23 16:58 ]</font> 
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10-23-2001, 04:58 PM
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<font size=2>I doubt it; they'd just go to the clinic a few blocks away. For abortion-doctor-terrorism to have any real effect, they'd have to get rid of most of the doctors in a given area. And even then, most girls/women - those who had already made up their minds, anyway - would probably be just as determined and cross state lines, if necessary, to get it done.
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#3
10-24-2001, 06:28 PM
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If this logic were to follow, then one could argue that even more lives were "saved" because most likely some of the WTC employees killed would at some point in the future have had abortions.
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Someone tells us that God loves us as a father loves his children. We are reassured. But then something awful happens. Some qualification is made.... We are reassured again. But then perhaps we ask: what is this assurance of God's (appropriately qualified) love worth, what is this apparent guarantee really a guarantee against? Just what would have to happen not merely (morally and wrongly) to tempt but also (logically and rightly) to entitle us to say "God does not love us" or even "God does not exist"? -- Antony Flew
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#4
10-24-2001, 06:34 PM
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No, in your example there wouldn't be a tangible person whose life was saved from the terrorism. Unless an abortion doctor died in the WTC attack, which is kind of a stretch.
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#6
10-25-2001, 11:27 AM
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Let's not start thread drift.
I just asked if anyone is alive today because an abortion was prevented by a pro-life attack. It's a compelling question you have to admit. <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Voice of Reason on 2001-10-25 11:28 ]</font>
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#7
10-25-2001, 12:06 PM
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Another interesting (but in this case obviously unanswerable) question:
Is anybody alive today because of an abortion? That is, were any potential mass murders, drunk drivers, or whatever aborted so that their innocent victims are alive today as a result?
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#8
10-25-2001, 12:33 PM
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>>Is anybody alive today because of an abortion?
Sigh... at the risk of subjecting myself to hilarious replies: Docs told my mom that I was some-which-way in the womb and that there was a good chance I'd be retarded. He suggested abortion, but mom said no. I am utterly indifferent on the abortion issue though. I hope people make the right "choice." [Drum roll please for the fantastic punch lines!]
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#9
10-25-2001, 12:40 PM
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The difference between our points is that mine is real and tangible and yours is an abstract fantasy.
A mother who was going in for an abortion, but didn't have it due to a pro-life attack knows that pro-lifers are the reason her real, tangible, breathing, speaking, learning child is here today. Someone who isn't mugged doesn't know if they would have been mugged had an abortion not occurred. You can't prove that. <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Voice of Reason on 2001-10-25 12:40 ]</font>
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#10
10-25-2001, 01:08 PM
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How about we look at your question from a slightly different angle. Is anyone here today becasue their mom wanted to get an abortion, but instead received counseling and adoption assistance from a pro-life organization? I'm not sure why you focus only on the "pro-life terrorists" when asking your question. That's like asking has anyone converted to Islam based on the 9/11 attacks? I don't find that to be a compelling question at all.
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