Possitive Terrorism

[Fun King ded]

Is there anything to be gained from attacks against "innocents?"

So ya got yer cause and it's killing you slowly but no one seems to even notice...

Scenarios anyone?

[yankeetripper]

How about the Boston Tea party? I can't remember if anyone died then so this may not qualify as an attach in "innocents."

[thing]

I just finished the book The Tipping Point, by the same guy who did Blink. One of the more thought provoking parts was about suicides in Micronesia. Being, as it is, such an insulated culture, the pattern of suicide there is somewhat different than elsewhere in the world, and most importantly, it can be traced historically to one particular case. All subsequent suicides have followed a similar pattern in that culture, and the suicide rate is alarmingly high.

Very intriguing. What it brought up for me is a comparison to suicide bombers. There too, we have a insulated subculture in which this kind of death seems (to its members) to make sense. But then the difference is you've got a larger culture surrounding it, encouraging it, exploiting it.

How do you convince teenagers not to kill themselves? Or at least to not kill others in the process? Doesn't seem like that should be hard to do, but I don't know. Here we have our Columbine copycats, there we have our dynamite vests. And I just don't understand.

[Maxprime]

Originally Posted by Fun King ded

Is there anything to be gained from attacks against "innocents?"

So ya got yer cause and it's killing you slowly but no one seems to even notice...

Scenarios anyone?

For terrorists? Of course - at the very least it brings their cause to the front of the world media.

[Wigmeister General]

Originally Posted by thing

I just finished the book The Tipping Point, by the same guy who did Blink. .

How do you convince teenagers not to kill themselves? Or at least to not kill others in the process? Doesn't seem like that should be hard to do, but I don't know. .

Um. We could identify the living family members and exact revenge upon them. That might make a few suicide nutsos think twice. Maybe.

[Malik Shabazz]

Originally Posted by Maxprime

For terrorists? Of course - at the very least it brings their cause to the front of the world media.

That's a point I made in this thread:

Originally Posted by Malik Shabazz

35-40 years ago, when Israeli leaders and other world leaders denied that there were such people as Palestinians with national aspirations and the right to a national homeland and self-determination, it may have been possible to rationalize terrorist attacks by Palestinians against Israelis because they focused world attention on the plight of the Palestinians.

[Listerine]

Originally Posted by Fun King ded

Is there anything to be gained from attacks against "innocents?"

So ya got yer cause and it's killing you slowly but no one seems to even notice...

Scenarios anyone?

On the internet. I'm not answering the first question, just the third.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by Wigmeister General

Um. We could identify the living family members and exact revenge upon them. That might make a few suicide nutsos think twice. Maybe.

How medieval of you.

[The Diabolical Biz Markie]

The Diabolical Biz Markie thinks the Fun King has a point.

Successful forms of terrorism relied on attacking an occupying force, thus goading it into reprisals against civilians, which created more sympathy for the terrorist cause and hostility towards the occupying force.

Al Qaeda's version of terrorism is the exact opposite. Randomly attack civilians in other countries (as opposed to an occupying military).

Ultimately, it's a losing strategy. No one wants a world in which you make your point by blowing up a bus.

[Maxprime]

Originally Posted by Wigmeister General

Um. We could identify the living family members and exact revenge upon them. That might make a few suicide nutsos think twice. Maybe.

Wow - now that's ballsy. Doesn't purposely killing innocents make us just as bad as them?

I'm pretty militant, but this looks like a step way over the line.