Getting tired of Iraq?

[MarsLasar]

Looks like things in Iraq are getting old. Another suicide bombing, but not exactly spellbinding news anymore. Maybe I am just a short-sighted American but Iraq news is a sure sedative lately. Yes, I hope democracy can succeed there. But I am having increasing doubts. I feel like I need to keep abreast the news there and have to battle an increasing sense of not caring.

[Listerine]

Eighty people just died in an explosion. Try to imagine them as Londoners.

[SamTheEagle]

Originally Posted by Listerine

Eighty people just died in an explosion. Try to imagine them as Londoners.

We already established in another thread that Arab lives aren't worth as much as European lives.

[Listerine]

I was just trying to help with Mars' battle with an increasing sense of not caring.
Far away people with whom you can't identify easily are harder to feel empathy for than people not like that. That's human nature. But it's one of the human natures it's better imo to try to trascend.

[Tim><]

It's interesting that you mention this. You seem to come from the left side of the aisle. I, OTOH, tend to agree more with the right side on issues of national security and foreign policy and I am becoming increasingly frustrated by the war.

Originally Posted by Tim><

I am becoming increasingly frustrated by the war.

In what way?

I'm asking because my level of frustration has been pretty constant for a while...I'm wondering what's changing in your mind.

[Tim><]

Originally Posted by Titania

In what way?

I'm asking because my level of frustration has been pretty constant for a while...I'm wondering what's changing in your mind.

I am becoming frustrated with the lack of concrete information being released about progress in the war. It is one thing to criticize the media for only relaying the bad stories; however, we have long passed the end of major fighting and I would like to know what kind of progress has been made toward reducing the likelihood of future incidents.

I wouldn't say that my mind is being changed. I have admitted bias wrt Iraq previously. I still think that military action was warranted, if for no other reason than treaty violations. However, I have for a long time questioned the military tactics and the current rules of engagement. It seems to me that you either need to take abrupt decisive action or relinquish control to peacekeeping troops. The US seems to be doing neither and it concerns me.

However, using my words of 'increasing frustration', this stems from a combination of increasing costs (human and economic), lack of demonstrable results and growing concern that there is no real plan toward acheiving demonstrable results.

Originally Posted by Tim><

...However, using my words of 'increasing frustration', this stems from a combination of increasing costs (human and economic), lack of demonstrable results and growing concern that there is no real plan toward acheiving demonstrable results.

I think that you're position is prevalent among the public at this point.

I think some people (you) had more patience than others (me.)

I think Bush overestimated that patience.

[Tim><]

Originally Posted by Titania

I think that you're position is prevalent among the public at this point.

I think some people (you) had more patience than others (me.)

I think Bush overestimated that patience.

Agreed, agreed and agreed.

Am I getting tired of Iraq?

Absolutely, unequivocably, yes. I don't think the problems are going anywhere anytime soon, though.

Link.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A dozen explosions ripped through the Iraqi capital Wednesday, killing at least 152 people and wounding 542 in a series of attacks that began with a suicide car bombing that targeted laborers assembled to find work for the day. Al-Qaida in Iraq claimed responsibility.

The bloodiest attack killed at least 88 people and wounded 227 in the heavily Shiite neighborhood of Kazimiyah where the day laborers had gathered shortly after dawn.

Overnight Wednesday, 17 men were executed in a village north of Baghdad, which put the death toll in all violence in and around the capital Wednesday at 169 and the number continued to rise.

A senior American military official told The Associated Press he believed the rash of bombings was retaliation for the joint Iraqi-U.S. sweep through the northern city of Tal Afar in recent days to evict insurgents from their stronghold near the Syrian border. Al-Jazeera television quoted the al-Qaida as confirming that assessment.

Wednesday's carnage was believed to be the second worst since the U.S.-led invasion. On March 2, 2004, coordinated blasts from suicide bombers, mortars and planted explosives hit Shiite Muslim shrines in Karbala and in Baghdad, killing at least 181 and wounding 573.

A question...this morning on CNN I heard the initial reports of today's bombings...the final statement of the brief was that AQ in Iraq had claimed responsibility, but "the claim has not yet been validated" or something like that.

I hear this caveat all the time...but I NEVER hear "yes, the US government/whoever has confirmed that this group was responsible."

Has anyone ever heard of such a thing?