Sex discrimination

[NoName]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2002Oct8.html

(Put in Political Issues in hopes of touching off a flame war!)

First paragraph:

PORTSMOUTH, Va., Oct. 8 -- Chantilly High School senior Jenny Suh became the first girl to win a Virginia AAA golf championship today, defeating a field of 71 boys at Elizabeth Manor Country Club.

Well, how nice. Fourth paragraph:

Suh played from the women's tees, so the course measured 5,370 yards for her; the course was 6,462 yards for boys. The Virginia High School League, the governing body for sports in the state's public schools, allows girls to play on boys' teams, with the girls playing courses at or close to 80 percent as long as the boys'.

Ohhhh... Well, maybe the girls have nowhere else to play, so they get to compete on unequal terms in the boys' event.

The VHSL also established a girls' championship, which will be held for the first time next week. Suh will compete in that event, as well.

"I always thought it was fair that girls played in the boys' tournament with this setup, but then they developed a girls' state tournament," said Western Branch senior Jamie Hamilton, who finished third at 142. "If girls want to play with the guys, they should play from the same tee as them -- I mean, I can't play in the girls' tournament."

Uhhh, never mind. But surely Suh is gracious enough to understand the boys' complaints, right?

Boys "are starting to complain now that I finally won," Suh said. "This has been the rule for four years. . . . They just didn't think a girl would actually win. . . .

"It's not like because I hit from the red tees the ball magically went in. I still had to deal with the fast greens, I still had to put it in the hole."

Did Suh "actually win"? (Note that given the yardage figures above, Suh was in fact forced to hit from tees that were about 83% as far from the holes as the boys' tees. How unfair that they didn't give her 80% as they should have! And on those fast greens, Miss Suh.)

[The Drunken Actuary]

Typical double standard. Play in a girls league or hit from the same tee. Or stop pretending like you earned something you didn't.

[Jack]

Why are high school kids playing an old man sport like golf? The high school actually has a golf team? Wrong just wrong. Teenagers should be running, swimming, lifting weights or playing ball. What's next, a high school bowling team? Good God.

[MathGuy]

I'll note with out comment that 6,462 yards = 19,386 feet = 3.67 miles.

[fallout]

For those that don't think Golf is a sport, do what I did. I had a friend that played basketball, usually 3 on 3 for about an hour. I told him I'll play 2 hours of basketball with you if you golf 36 holes with me. We did it on succesive Saturdays. On the Sunday after Bball we played some pool. On the Sunday after Golf, I played pool while he stayed home and soaked in a hot tub, completely sore.

As for a girl getting to hit from special tees, that is a joke. Most of the guys in that field could have beaten her from the front tees. What's next? Make the hole bigger for Presbexistians since they are obviously underrepresented on the PGA tour?

[Loner]

Yeah, and the first time I bowled my arm was sore. It's still not a sport; it's a game.

I read in Time Magazine last week that a woman qualified to play in the PGA by winning a Connecticut championship, but she was playing off tees that were 10% closer, an option that would not be available to her in the PGA. She doesn't plan on playing.

If women mature earlier than men, why are high school girls tees so much shorter? Shouldn't they be 90% as well?

If there's enough data to make a handicap with a reasonable degree of confidence, go ahead for regular season meets. But the championships should be separate: if there is a girls' tournament, they should be in the girls' tournament.

[Guerilla poster]

This topic always cracks me up. I especially like when John Mcrenoe starts ripping on the women he telecast with when she says something stupid about how the Williams sisters could beat some of the men on the tour. The Williams serves are probably slower than the 200th ranked pro on the mens side.

[fallout]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

This topic always cracks me up. I especially like when John Mcrenoe starts ripping on the women he telecast with when she says something stupid about how the Williams sisters could beat some of the men on the tour. The Williams serves are probably slower than the 200th ranked pro on the mens side.

Obviously if women played the men they should be allowed to serve from the fault line.

[Aaron Brachowitz]

Originally Posted by Jack

Why are high school kids playing an old man sport like golf? The high school actually has a golf team? Wrong just wrong. Teenagers should be running, swimming, lifting weights or playing ball. What's next, a high school bowling team? Good God.

I agree with you but for different (selfish) reasons. Get all these damn kids off the damn golf course, dammit. They pay next to nothing and play like complete idiots. Then I go to my park district course a few Saturdays ago and they tell me to go home, the high school tournament is today. Every time I see those Tiger Woods ads showing him recruiting a whole generation of kids to play golf, I cringe.

[The Diabolical Biz Markie]

I think their should be a special, additional hoop on the basketball court for white people that it 9 feet high.

Maybe another one for women that is shorter.

You can only score on your race/gender specific hoop.


(some) women want it both ways, because they don't want to admit the undeniable fact that men and women are physically different.